[Agent SpectreMember]

Rather than muck up the “Square Bakugan” thread… I'm going to reply to this here…

According to official bakugan website there is no "diablo" preyas. Just preyas and preyas II. preyas II being the one everyon erefers to as "diablo". Ive never seen the show so only can go by what i have learned from the site. Thus thats why i thought you were referring to the preyas 2.

Quite honestly the "Official" stuff is off. Is it any surprise?There's no such thing as a "Preyas II" a "Delta Dragonoid II" ( that one really doesn't make sence) or a "Hydranoid II"... it's just some stupid numbering system they started for who knows what reason. I'm surprised they didn't start calling Storm Skyress, "Skyress II", ect...They are Angel and Diablo Preyas (one ball), Delta Dragonoid and Dual Hydranoid.Of course Spinmaster got cheap and gave us an Angelo/Diablo Preyas that only opens on one side ( Diablo Only), reserving the dual open for the special attack series. So we just refer to that one as a Diablo Preyas. I refer t the Dual opening one as a "Preyas II" because 1. It's much easier than typing Angelo/Diablo, and 2. It makes sence... Two Bakugan in one ball... Preyas 2.How can I prove Spinmaster is messing up? One very strong case would be that of the Hydranoid. On the poster and everything else they refer to the Dual Hydranoid as simply "Hydranoid"... why? Probably because they never made the REAL Hydranoid ball. (probably because it is too complex... it looks that way from the show) Still this is a gross misrepresentation of character.Hydranoid (1 head) - Not released in ball form, Dual Hydranoid (2 heads) - Released as "Hydranoid", Alpha Hydranoid (3 heads) - not released in ball form ((but they want to confused folks further by adding a Dual Hydranoid to the character pack)).Why on earth woudl they refer to the Delta Dragoind as a "Delta Dragonoid II" without there being a Delta Dragonoid.

[AdminKeymaster]

While i agree with you on the naming/numbering system and what makes sense… im sure there are MANY people out there like me that would refer to the bakugan by the name they are given on the packaging or checklist or whatever. I would rather stick with the default given names so everyone was on the same page even if they are wrong or made no sense just for the sake of uniformity. Im sure people search google and ebay using the preyas 2 ( preyas II ) name or Hydranoid name.

[nimrod98Member]

Isn't admin's profile pic THE hydranoid? What do you mean by the real hydranoid?Sorry not questioning you, but just out of curiosity

[AdminKeymaster]

Isn't admin's profile pic THE hydranoid? What do you mean by the real hydranoid?Sorry not questioning you, but just out of curiosity

The "official" name of it is Hydranoid, but it has two heads so i guess it suppose to be referred to as dual hydranoid... IDK

[Agent SpectreMember]

::Sighs::THIS is a Hydranoid:The one in that gif is a DUAL Hydranoid. There is a huge difference. Of course people use those names... but I thought it was pretty common knowledge to any Bakugan FAN what the difference is.I call Dual Hydra's "Hyrdanoid" too.. but thats' just for simplicities sake since they never produced the actual hydranoid.I barely watch the show, but the show was givign us names LONG before Spinmaster decided to do anything about it. And quite frankly when they did, they messed it up. They can't even be consistent with THEMSELVES on their own packaging and inserts. So while I understand what you are saying... to call what they print a "default" name is just a bit absurd.Also don't you find it ironic that the Diablo Preyas they want to call "preyas 2" is actually Angelo side up on the poster... which they didn't make except AS the real dual sided Preyas 2. m'just sayin.But that's where the Target character pack got it right. "Preyas Diablo" as they put it... is only the Diablo side.

[AdminKeymaster]

Of course people use those names... but I thought it was pretty common knowledge to any Bakugan FAN what the difference is.I call Dual Hydra's "Hyrdanoid" too.. but thats' just for simplicities sake since they never produced the actual hydranoid.Also don't you find it ironic that the Diablo Preyas they want to call "preyas 2" is actually Angelo side up on the poster... which they didn't make except AS the real dual sided Preyas 2. m'just sayin.

Bakugans target market i would say are young children and i would guess that most dont even know half the bakugan names ( types ) so my opinion is that it isnt common knowledge. Read the official sites forum, most of them have no clue about the rules of the game or how stuff works. As for the poster.... Im assuming you are refering to the head as not having the horns? Thats the only difference i can find in that picture and my actual bakugan. Your reference to Angelo im assuming is the name of the bakugan? Then why is it called a preyas if its an angelo? More confusion LOL

[Agent SpectreMember]

And that's why I said fans. All the serious kids I've met at tournaments and such know their stuff.Errk... You've got to be kidding me. THe one on the poster looks nothing like the Diablo Side.I'm going to have to assume you have no idea what a Preyas II is... which is... very strange considering you run this site and have talked about them. So forgive me if you already know this:A Preyas II is actually two different Bakugan. One is an Angel (Angelo), the other is a Devil (Diablo). These are the Two characters you see on the "Preyas Switch" card.

[AdminKeymaster]

Ah i see. To me a preyas II is the bakugan thats you get in the package that is labeled preyas II, nothing more. 😛 And i run this site simply because no one else had anything like it. You seemed to be the most knowledgeable from the bakugan forums to be able to put something together but was to busy with your prior commitments. I'm a newb myself but am learning and trying to make the whole site a great learning experience for everyone.

[Agent SpectreMember]

Ah i see. To me a preyas II is the bakugan thats you get in the package that is labeled preyas II, nothing more.

But see... that's one point I am trying to make. There is no package that says Preyas II. Can you show me one? The character pack I have says "Preyas Diablo" for the single sided "Preyas II". XP They are inconsistent.So far the site has been a great learning experience, don't worry.And I only know what I know because I've been doing this for a whole year and have had to put up with ever curve this company has thrown at us. I really am sick of it.When an issue like this comes up I try to provide the best information I can given my experience...::shrugs:: I just hope I can be of some help.

[AdminKeymaster]

Let me rephrase…. to me a preyas II is the bakugan i receive in the package that is the closest match to the picture labeled the same on the official poster ( which i now know really isnt much of a match, LOL )

[bakudadMember]

So if I understand right Agent Spectre, the one you're calling Preyas II is the one that opens on two sides, and your contention is that that's the thing labeled “Preyas II” on the 2008 marketing poster? As I think you mention, the special attack “Preyas” looks like that picture, at least it does to me.Obviously the thing most people call "Preyas II", which is labeled as "Preyas Diablo" on the Target exclusive character pack, doesn't look like any of the ones on the poster (unless I'm missing something).What about the one labeled "Preyas" on the poster? Was that ever released? Is that the series 1 preyas? (I assumed the series 1/2 Preyas looked like the Special Attack Preyas but without the spinning belly -- but that was just an assumption on my part.) I found it interesting that the Target Exclusive "Preyas" (not "Diablo") looks like the special attack Preyas, even including a little spinner thing in its center, even though it's B2 size as far as I can tell.Finally, not to hijack the thread, but I've always wondered why the one labelled "Gorem" on the poster doesn't look like the one that's usually called "Gorem" -- they're similar, but then there's the obvious difference that on the toy one arm opens up...

[Agent SpectreMember]

So if I understand right Agent Spectre, the one you're calling Preyas II is the one that opens on two sides, and your contention is that that's the thing labeled "Preyas II" on the 2008 marketing poster? As I think you mention, the special attack "Preyas" looks like that picture, at least it does to me.

Correct. A Real Preyas "II" should open up on "II" sides. Both the Angelo ( pictured on the poster) and his bottom half, the Diablo ( what we're seeing on the single sided "Preyas II)

Obviously the thing most people call "Preyas II", which is labeled as "Preyas Diablo" on the Target exclusive character pack, doesn't look like any of the ones on the poster (unless I'm missing something).

Yes Diablo Preyas is only one half of a real Preyas II. The reason he is no on the poster is because they show the Angelo Preyas side instead, as only one side is supposed to be open at a time. When you roll you either get the angel or the devil. Like I've said, the one on the poster is The Angelo side which they haven't released as a single opening side like the Diablo. Not that it's supposed to work like that anyway; they are supposed to be the same bakugan.I don't see what is so confusing.. but I'll blame that on Spinmaster, lol.

What about the one labeled "Preyas" on the poster? Was that ever released? Is that the series 1 preyas? (I assumed the series 1/2 Preyas looked like the Special Attack Preyas but without the spinning belly -- but that was just an assumption on my part.) I found it interesting that the Target Exclusive "Preyas" (not "Diablo") looks like the special attack Preyas, even including a little spinner thing in its center, even though it's B2 size as far as I can tell.Finally, not to hijack the thread, but I've always wondered why the one labelled "Gorem" on the poster doesn't look like the one that's usually called "Gorem" -- they're similar, but then there's the obvious difference that on the toy one arm opens up...

Preyas was a series 1 Bakugan (Ventus Preyas was my first bakugan so I should know, ;D).During Series 1 he was available in all 6 attributes,and some of them in Translucent, WITH the attribute change wheel.Then Spinmaster decided he was worth more and in series 2 they took the attributes off of his spinny wheel and reserved that for the Special attack series which no longer includes the original colors ( only Pearl, Reverse and now Clear/Translucent Pearl).

[bakudadMember]

Thanks for the history and background. It's very interesting to me. Anything more you want to share would be cool. Personally I'd love to see history and trivia etc. on the main website pages covering the different marble types. But that's just me — and obviously there's not as much history for most marble types as there is for the main ones from the show like Preyas, Hydranoid, Dragonoid, etc. But for example there are other things I've seen mentioned here in the forums, like whether Apollonir is somehow similar or related to Dragonoid (since it obviously looks similar).And it wasn't confusing at all -- at least not for me. Since you were answering my questions I guess that's a good thing =)Finally, I was really interested to see the Hydranoid on the Card Force card. I was telling my son about it this morning and realized I had seen that marble before. In the closing credits of the show (at least in the first 4 episodes I've seen) there is a circle of marbles, one of each color, that open up in turn. We recognized most of them but couldn't figure out what the Darkus one was. It looked sort of like a cross between Dragonoid and Serpenoid. But now I see that it's an animated version of the (never made) one-headed Hydranoid.

[ChuklaeAquosMember]

But for example there are other things I've seen mentioned here in the forums, like whether Apollonir is somehow similar or related to Dragonoid (since it obviously looks similar).

apollonir was originally from the TV show, it was one of the six old vestroia warriors. it is no way related to dragonoid

[Mark Barry P. ArcabalMember]

maybe its the third evo. drago

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