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    • #224755
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      Aquos
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      It looks like the transition into Gundalian Invaders is gonna happen really soon, but I have a feeling they're gonna totally screw the the ending to NV.First of all, the good guys are supposed to beat the bad guys before saving the world. The brawlers all lost to the Vexos and cheated them out of their victory spoils. (They aren't facing the consequences, what lesson does that teach?) Than Zenoheld destroys Farbros without even trying to use Assail Farbros, seriously WTF? So now the season is gonna end with the main character loosing to the villain and never getting a rematch. There's also all the unresolved plot holes and character development of the Vexos. What really happened to Gus?Will Volt ever get Brontes back and will he be forgiven?What was Lync crying about back at Alice's house? What is going to happen to Mylene, Shadow, and Hydron? Will Mira, Keith, and Professor Clay ever be a happy family? Seriously, unless they're going to end this in some horrible way, story-wise, NV still has a ways to go.

      #379263
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      First, Dan and Spectra are gonna have the FINAL battle in the next episode. And in episode 42, Klaus revealed all of those Vexos went to another dimension, that means they still have a chance to come back in GI. Maybe they will ally with the Gundalians to fight against the brawler. Also, NV still haven't end until around 9 episodes more. So your questions may be answered in the following episodes. I'm very appreciate with your points. I enjoy reading your posts anyway. Although your posts are long but they attract me to read....IMO. (I hate reading long posts except yours XD)

      #333805
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      Aquos
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      First, Dan and Spectra are gonna have the FINAL battle in the next episode.

      Spectra is just a rival. If this is really gonna be the final battle than we'll always think Zenoheld was stronger than Dan.He didn't go all out but he still beat them both, doesn't that feel unsatisfying?

      #379266
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      Bakuexpert
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      LOL. Nelvana(?)whatever fails at making anime plots.

      #379270
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      Aquos
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      I didn't know SM writes the show.

      #379271
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      zack7521
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      Yeah your right. They are leaing waaayyyy to much stuff out.

      #379323
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      Haos-Emily
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      well, TBH, wouldn't you say that the good guy always wins is becoming a boring overused plot?about your point though, I guess some things are better off not answered, not being answered could let you create your own point of views on the subject, and who knows, maybe they will answer them in the next few episodes

      #376699
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      I'm thinking the Phantom Data episode was just a preview, sorta like having a pokemon appear in a movie that's not in the current generation (Like the Manaphy film). While the episode seemed out of place, I think it's just the Gundalians probing Earth for weakness and we have yet to see the repercussions of Baron's screw-up (Aside from his inevitable getting kicked off the show).Hopefully NV will get a better finish. The problem is that a great deal of NV just pales in comparison to the original season. Too much stuff is getting recycled in this series to keep it interesting for me. I wouldn't mind a quick end, if you ask me.EDIT:

      well, TBH, wouldn't you say that the good guy always wins is becoming a boring overused plot?about your point though, I guess some things are better off not answered, not being answered could let you create your own point of views on the subject, and who knows, maybe they will answer them in the next few episodes

      That's a bit of a pre film school response. There is too much at stake for the good guys to truly "lose". If they truly lose, they die, all the Bakugan die, and it's series over. (In my opinion, the fact that the good guys lost and were then allowed to escape is even MORE contrived than if they had won). The good guys winning in the end is a foregone conclusion, but the process that shows them overcoming and defeating the problem to become victorious is what makes the story interesting. Sure a good-guy can always win if the story is written well enough that the adversity and triumph are believable.People who say that the characters need to lose every once in awhile don't know how to write well. Like I said, in a lot of stories a single loss can cost a character everything and the story would end. I feel that the kind of pressure that should have been in New Vestroia was severely and unforgivably downplayed, especially when Dan and the others were allowed to escape. Mylene used my words exactly and Zenoheld has clearly never read the list of things a Warlord should never do.It also seemed out of character for him. He blows Gus away with huge cannons and then lets his arch foes just waltz out without hindrance? WHA!?

      #379377
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      Maping
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      hey kohdok you perv i saw your pic on rule 34 of elfin

      ...WHAT?!!!And that is spam.

      #379876
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      Bakuexpert
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      hey kohdok you perv i saw your pic on rule 34 of elfin

      ...WHAT?!!!And that is spam.

      ^SPAM tooI agree with Kohdok. The following last few episodes of NV MUST be explaining why Mira, Baron and Ace aren't in GI.

      #379898
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      Maping
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      hey kohdok you perv i saw your pic on rule 34 of elfin

      ...WHAT?!!!And that is spam.

      ^SPAM tooI agree with Kohdok. The following last few episodes of NV MUST be explaining why Mira, Baron and Ace aren't in GI.

      Speculating here, I bet they become the new royal family and are too preoccupied to help.(I'm just telling him it's spam. If he deletes it, I'll delete mine.)

      #379899
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      hey kohdok you perv i saw your pic on rule 34 of elfin

      ...WHAT?!!!And that is spam.

      ^SPAM tooI agree with Kohdok. The following last few episodes of NV MUST be explaining why Mira, Baron and Ace aren't in GI.

      Speculating here, I bet they become the new royal family and are too preoccupied to help.(I'm just telling him it's spam. If he deletes it, I'll delete mine.)

      Speculation's all that's gonna be, unless baron's a Knave...

      #380368
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      Aquos
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      I'm thinking the Phantom Data episode was just a preview, sorta like having a pokemon appear in a movie that's not in the current generation (Like the Manaphy film). While the episode seemed out of place, I think it's just the Gundalians probing Earth for weakness and we have yet to see the repercussions of Baron's screw-up.

      That makes sense, hope you're right.

      Too much stuff is getting recycled in this series to keep it interesting for me. I wouldn't mind a quick end, if you ask me.

      Than brace yourself cause Gundalian Invaders isn't going to be any different.

      That's a bit of a pre film school response. There is too much at stake for the good guys to truly "lose". If they truly lose, they die, all the Bakugan die, and it's series over. (In my opinion, the fact that the good guys lost and were then allowed to escape is even MORE contrived than if they had won). The good guys winning in the end is a foregone conclusion, but the process that shows them overcoming and defeating the problem to become victorious is what makes the story interesting. Sure a good-guy can always win if the story is written well enough that the adversity and triumph are believable.People who say that the characters need to lose every once in awhile don't know how to write well. Like I said, in a lot of stories a single loss can cost a character everything and the story would end. I feel that the kind of pressure that should have been in New Vestroia was severely and unforgivably downplayed, especially when Dan and the others were allowed to escape. Mylene used my words exactly and Zenoheld has clearly never read the list of things a Warlord should never do.It also seemed out of character for him. He blows Gus away with huge cannons and then lets his arch foes just waltz out without hindrance? WHA!?

      Yes, I agree. The whole thing made little sense and lacked the danger factor. Ever since the brawlers got the attribute symbols they've been too relaxed.

      #380370
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      Kohdok
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      They also didn't have the epic showdown we were all waiting for: Assail Farbros Vs Maxus Helios/Dragonoid!!With Farbros kinda sploded, unless they pull even more story out of their asses and give Zenoheld another Farbros (MK II!!!!!11oneonelololol!!), it can no longer happen.

      #380372
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      Bakuexpert
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      I'm thinking the Phantom Data episode was just a preview, sorta like having a pokemon appear in a movie that's not in the current generation (Like the Manaphy film). While the episode seemed out of place, I think it's just the Gundalians probing Earth for weakness and we have yet to see the repercussions of Baron's screw-up.

      That makes sense, hope you're right.

      Too much stuff is getting recycled in this series to keep it interesting for me. I wouldn't mind a quick end, if you ask me.

      Than brace yourself cause Gundalian Invaders isn't going to be any different.

      That's a bit of a pre film school response. There is too much at stake for the good guys to truly "lose". If they truly lose, they die, all the Bakugan die, and it's series over. (In my opinion, the fact that the good guys lost and were then allowed to escape is even MORE contrived than if they had won). The good guys winning in the end is a foregone conclusion, but the process that shows them overcoming and defeating the problem to become victorious is what makes the story interesting. Sure a good-guy can always win if the story is written well enough that the adversity and triumph are believable.People who say that the characters need to lose every once in awhile don't know how to write well. Like I said, in a lot of stories a single loss can cost a character everything and the story would end. I feel that the kind of pressure that should have been in New Vestroia was severely and unforgivably downplayed, especially when Dan and the others were allowed to escape. Mylene used my words exactly and Zenoheld has clearly never read the list of things a Warlord should never do.It also seemed out of character for him. He blows Gus away with huge cannons and then lets his arch foes just waltz out without hindrance? WHA!?

      Yes, I agree. The whole thing made little sense and lacked the danger factor. Ever since the brawlers got the attribute symbols they've been too relaxed.

      You mean attribute energy right?

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