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      Ok, I'm sure some of you Pokemon freaksfans have been checking Pokebeach, and I'm callin' it. Within the next month, I'm fairly certain we're getting at least a sillouette. There's plenty of proof to back it up, too.And for those who haven't heard, here:

      "A 13th movie product advertisement for Poke Ball projectors may contain hints for new Pokemon. The ad, which displays Pokemon that are known to be in The Ruler of Illusion: Z such as Celebi, Entei, Suicune, and Raikou, purposefully hides two of the Poke Ball Pokemon with question marks. The text above each question marks says "A Pokemon that will be in the movie."When discussing the advertisement last night, we thought the question mark Pokemon may be Lugia and Ho-Oh since they were shown in the first teaser trailer for the 13th movie and are in Master Balls like Celebi (with Ho-Oh's creations in Ultra Balls, since they are of lesser status). However, it is not often that these types of products purposefully hide known Pokemon. In the past, these question marks turned out to be Pokemon like Shaymin Sky Forme, Giratina Origin Forme, and Spiky Ear Pichu, though on rare occasions they were in fact Pokemon that were already known. So, we can't really tell either way what the question marks mean until the products are released.While the Pokemon may turn out to be just Lugia and Ho-Oh, as posted a few days ago, the "master of illusion" ("Z") may be a new Pokemon or Pokemon Forme that could be revealed in CoroCoro magazine this month (or within the next few months). We have run out of known Legendary Pokemon to use in movies, so it's probably time to reveal a new Pokemon or Pokemon forme anyway! Thanks go to Frugrow for sending this image to us and Heerosferret for translating!"first-hint.jpg"In lieu of the previous news story posted here, a second 13th movie advertisement strongly implies that new Pokemon will be in The Master of Illusion: Z. The advertisement, which is for a "Pokemon Seal Battle Piece Collection DP 2010 set," lists the names of Pokemon that will be released in sets of stickers ("seals"). The ad lists the names of the Pokemon to be included in each sticker set, and at the end of each bullet point, it says, "plus a Pokemon that's introduced in the movie."Additionally, under Piplup's image above the list, the advertisement specially notes, "The Pokemon (plural) introduced in 2010's Master of Illusion: Z are in the (sticker) lineup." This of course implies that more than one new Pokemon or Pokemon Forme will be shown for the first time in the movie! The list below may make you think there are five new Pokemon, but some of them will probably be used in multiple sets.In past years, similar advertisements have surfaced around this time featuring mystery Pokemon, and these turned out to be new characters (Munchlax, Weavile), new Formes, (Giratina Origin Forme, Shaymin Sky Forme, Spiky Eared Pichu), or Pokemon that hadn't been officially announced (Arceus). Since all of the 4th Generation Pokemon have been revealed at this point, the only options are new Pokemon or new Formes, and with the enigmatic "Z" in the 13th movie's tile, a 5th generation Pokemon seems like the most probable option at this point. Thanks go to Frugrow for the image and Bangiras, Dogasu, and Umeko for translating and clarifying this story! All of the evidence now points to there being new Pokemon in the movie!Capsule 1 Master Ball (Entei, Tangrowth, Ninjask, plus a Pokemon that's introduced in the movie) Capsule 2 Hyper Ball (Suicune, Piplup, Croagunk, Shuppet, plus a Pokemon that's introduced in the movie) Capsule 3 Super Ball (Pikachu, Raikou, Happiny, Bronzor, plus a Pokemon that's introduced in the movie) Capsule 4 Monster Ball (Celebi, Mismagius, Mightyena, Togekiss, plus a Pokemon that's introduced in the movie) Capsule 5 Monster Ball (Celebi, Torterra, Scizor, Infernape, plus a Pokemon that's introduced in the movie) "second-hint.jpgIt has been brought to our attention that there was a misconstrued translation in the sticker advertisement story we posted the other day. Instead of the advertisement reading "plus a Pokemon that's introduced in the movie," it should be interpreted as "plus a Pokemon that appears in the movie." This change invalidates the entire story, obviously, since any Pokemon can appear in the movie. There was actually a lot of debate among our translators regarding the translation's meaning after the story was posted, but it was ultimately decided that the translation was accurate because the specific word is often used in Japanese to mean "introduce" (in terms of a character that has not appeared before) and because the Japanese wording was odd in the way it was stating that other Pokemon would be in the product. Thanks to Umeko and Heerosferret, we have now determined that the advertisement was simply using ambiguous wording to generate hype (an old marketing strategy). Therefore, I deeply apologize for the misconstrued information.Despite the above, thanks to Yaminokame, we have recently learned that CoroCoro is going to have a "world-first" announcement in their next issue. In the current December 15th issue's preview section of the upcoming January 15th issue, there is a little blurb that states: "Pocket Monsters Master of Illusion: Z Quick Report!! Because it's CoroCoro there is a possibility for a world-first announcement!!" CoroCoro has revealed major news dozens of times before, including new Pokemon to be featured in upcoming movies, so the same may occur this time as well since the "world-first" announcement is concerning the 13th movie and they specifically reference their reputation. The issue will likely be leaked on the Internet between the 10th and 15th, and when it is, we will find out what they are talking about! (A silhouette of a Pokemon is usually what they show first, by the way.) However, there is a possibility the news will simply be something related to the movie's plot or even some promotional images - there are no guarantees it will be a new Pokemon, as it's still a bit early in the year. But we should definitely be seeing one in the next few months.But that's not all! Pokemon Sunday, which will air two days after the magazine is officially released, has stated through their episode synopsis that they will be announcing something important on their January 17th show during the game segment. What could it be? Well, literally anything, so it may have nothing to do with any of this speculation or CoroCoro's announcement. But it may!It seems like Ash's main journey in Sinnoh will end soon, as he [spoilers following] has one more badge to obtain and the new opening that aired in Japan yesterday shows off almost all Legendary Pokemon known so far - as if this is supposed to be the last epic opening to the show before something new, such as a 5th generation Pokemon, comes along. It's also convenient that this new opening is beginning to air around the time all these alleged announcements are coming. Not to mention that Ash's team will soon be very powerful (as evidenced by the evolutions he has), perhaps meaning he is going to face a big challenge soon (Battle Frontier? Elite Four?). Remember, Masamitsu Hidaka, the old director of the show, stated that the writers begin to evolve Ash's Pokemon when something big is coming up, and Ash's team is due for two evolutions soon as the opening shows.And that's still not all! In a recent interview with a Japanese newspaper, the president of Nintendo commented that the DS's successor "[will have] highly detailed graphics" and "a sensor with the ability to read the movements of people playing." Recently, Gamefreak, the creators of the main Pokemon games, solicited to hire 3D artists. Perhaps they were seeking these employees to help with the 5th generation games since they will be on an apparently powerful 3D handheld. As Gamefreak currently only makes Pokemon games, where else would the 3D artists go? And since it would make sense for the new games to be in the works right now, some Pokemon designs are probably already finished and ready to be advertised. Again, these are just theories... what you would call "speculation." Not all of the facts are known or can be known. In the past, though, connecting the dots has often lead the Pokemon fandom to discovering patterns and predicting what will happen in the future.In the article, Nintendo's president also refused to state an estimated release date for the DS's successor, instead citing that the DS is selling extremely well now. This implies that the successor will not be released anytime soon, though it is definitely in the horizon. We can probably guess it will be released in 2011, since 2010 is too early and 2012 is too far away for them to even begin dropping hints about their next handheld. If this theory is true, within the next few months we could begin seeing 5th generation Pokemon showcased (if our other news stories haven't convinced you already, specifically the ones about "Z"). Kecleon, Wailmer, and Azurill were the first 3rd generation Pokemon to be seen, revealed in March 2001 for 2002's Ruby and Sapphire, and Munchlax was the first 4th generation Pokemon, revealed in May 2004 for 2006's Diamond and Pearl. We could begin to see silhouettes as soon as this month (though probably later than sooner), with the fully revealed Pokemon later on.Remember, most of this is just theory based on some facts and speculation. However, CoroCoro will probably reveal something major no matter what, and there will probably be 5th generation Pokemon coming soon no matter what. "Z" is probably a 5th generation Pokemon, and if not, we'll get something else instead. We'll see what happens regarding this speculation as the year unfolds!"Pokemon Sunday aired in Japan today (where it is Sunday), and for the preview of their next episode, host Shokotan displayed a large card with a question mark covering it. This obviously validates the news posted in the "5th Generation Evidence and Speculation" post regarding Pokemon Sunday revealing something important on their January 17th episode. What could this question mark be? Well, it could be a new Pokemon, but you never know for sure - we'll find out this time next week! The screenshots below are courtesy of Filb.de, which you can click for a larger picture.pokemon-sunday-question-mark.jpg

      Quoted from Pokebeach's WPM.........DISCUSS!

      #360879
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      I really hope we see a new pokemon. I get so excited when new pokemon are revealed.

      #360881
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      OMG (awesome) I hope we can their stats to over 9000. Eh the stupid cirno nine won't woek. Oh well. (lolwut)

      #360893

      I wonder if this has anything to do with the graphic art the admin on pokemonlake wanted me to do… Maybe he has pics of the new guys and wants me to make sprite versions of them? If that happens to be the case I'll be sure to “accidentally” leak all the info. 😉

      #360903
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      :-, Hmm, interesting, where did you find this Smearge? It sound…interesting at least.

      #361021
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      He said in the first post that he got the news at Pokebeach.I wish Heatran wasn't the Raikou of Sinnoh...

      #361025
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      He said in the first post that he got the news at Pokebeach.I wish Heatran wasn't the Raikou of Sinnoh...

      Sorry, it isn't. Raikou got its own 3 Episode special series with no Ash in sight, so it actually got off the easiest of the legendaries. Heatran just got a raw deal.More like "Sinnoh's Ho-oh?" But Ho-oh was in the first friggin' episode. Hrmm... I guess Heatran just gets the "Raw Deal" status all to itself...Now, now, let me think about it...Articuno: Pwnt in the 2nd movie. Has it appeared since?Zapdos: 2nd movie. Also Pwnt, was in a Johto episodeMoltres: Utterly Pwnt in 2nd movie, was in a Chronicles episode.Mewtwo: I AM GIYGASEPHIROTH!! I mean, 1st movie.Mew: Windmills are fun... (1st movie)Raikou: Legend of Thunder, 1,2,3! No Ash in this one! Woohoo!Entei: I AM YOUR FATHER! Well, no, not really. I can't back that up... (Movie 3). Also some nerd with a computer...not the chick, but the dude.Suicune: Plays the horse in Movie 4. Not too glorious. Shows up in Johto and Sinnoh.Ho-oh: HA! FIRST LEGENDARY ON THE SHOW!! Cameoed in Johto. Doesn't have it's own special yet...)Lugia: WHERE'S MAH BEBEH!?! And 2nd movie.Celebi: I have never seen any Legendary pokemon get so utterly pwnt in a single sitting... (4th film, chronicles, Ranger special)Regirock: Played a tree's Kidney stone. Also owned by frontier brain. Not too glorious.Regice: SameRegisteel: Same. HEIL HITLAH!! (Sorry)Latias: Delivered Pwnage (5th movie. Best one, in my opinion)Latios: Got pwnt. (5th movie)Kyogre: Got upstaged by Manaphy. Also in AG.Groudon: Princess Mononoke + WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO PLAY GOD!!Rayquaza: Aliens must die! Also AGJirachi: I hated this friggin' movie. The only thing clever about it was how they kept track of time in-movie...Deoxys: E.T. phone lawyer! Also in Ranger special.Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf: I think they were J bait...Dialga: Let's make Giratina do the time warp again!Palkia: Lemme just turn this french town into a quantum singularity for a second. Yup, there we go!Giratina: I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG!!Shaymin: OMGWTFBBQSEEDFLARE!!Cresselia: Only in a Sinnoh episode, I think.Darkrai: The emo pokemon.Regigigas: Push harder! J again!Heatran: Anything?Arceus: Never saw the movie, but it got top billing, so...

      #361026
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      True… Well, either way, I hope Heatran gets a spot in the movie, big or small…

      #361033
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      Pokebeach.com?

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      He said in the first post that he got the news at Pokebeach.I wish Heatran wasn't the Raikou of Sinnoh...

      Sorry, it isn't. Raikou got its own 3 Episode special series with no Ash in sight, so it actually got off the easiest of the legendaries. Heatran just got a raw deal.More like "Sinnoh's Ho-oh?" But Ho-oh was in the first friggin' episode. Hrmm... I guess Heatran just gets the "Raw Deal" status all to itself...Now, now, let me think about it...Articuno: Pwnt in the 2nd movie. Has it appeared since?Zapdos: 2nd movie. Also Pwnt, was in a Johto episodeMoltres: Utterly Pwnt in 2nd movie, was in a Chronicles episode.Mewtwo: I AM GIYGASEPHIROTH!! I mean, 1st movie.Mew: Windmills are fun... (1st movie)Raikou: Legend of Thunder, 1,2,3! No Ash in this one! Woohoo!Entei: I AM YOUR FATHER! Well, no, not really. I can't back that up... (Movie 3). Also some nerd with a computer...not the chick, but the dude.Suicune: Plays the horse in Movie 4. Not too glorious. Shows up in Johto and Sinnoh.Ho-oh: HA! FIRST LEGENDARY ON THE SHOW!! Cameoed in Johto. Doesn't have it's own special yet...)Lugia: WHERE'S MAH BEBEH!?! And 2nd movie.Celebi: I have never seen any Legendary pokemon get so utterly pwnt in a single sitting... (4th film, chronicles, Ranger special)Regirock: Played a tree's Kidney stone. Also owned by frontier brain. Not too glorious.Regice: SameRegisteel: Same. HEIL HITLAH!! (Sorry)Latias: Delivered Pwnage (5th movie. Best one, in my opinion)Latios: Got pwnt. (5th movie)Kyogre: Got upstaged by Manaphy. Also in AG.Groudon: Princess Mononoke + WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO PLAY GOD!!Rayquaza: Aliens must die! Also AGJirachi: I hated this friggin' movie. The only thing clever about it was how they kept track of time in-movie...Deoxys: E.T. phone lawyer! Also in Ranger special.Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf: I think they were J bait...Dialga: Let's make Giratina do the time warp again!Palkia: Lemme just turn this french town into a quantum singularity for a second. Yup, there we go!Giratina: I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG!!Shaymin: OMGWTFBBQSEEDFLARE!!Cresselia: Only in a Sinnoh episode, I think.Darkrai: The emo pokemon.Regigigas: Push harder! J again!Heatran: Anything?Arceus: Never saw the movie, but it got top billing, so...

      Yeah, I'm 99% sure that Articuno was in an episode of the anime. They were at the top of a mountain with Todd. Can't remember anything else for now.

      #361079
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      Yes i remember ^ I was at the top of a mountain. Articuno is an awesome pokemon either way.

      #365596
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      YEAH 5th Gen game has been anounced. Thanks to Blitz for the info. Quote from WPM:

      The moment we've all been waiting for! The official Japanese Pokemon website has announced that a new Pokemon RPG will be released for the DS by the end of the year and that it will for sure feature brand new Pokemon. It's the "first new work" since Diamond and Pearl as the announcement states, meaning it will more than likely be a main game like Red, Gold, Pearl, etc. This will be the first time two generations of Pokemon have been released on the same handheld system, though technically, the first and second generations were both featured on Gameboy (despite one being in color). Bangiras has translated the announcement below:An entirely new "Pocket Monsters" series is under development for release in 2010.The Pokemon Company (headed by Tsunekazu Ishihara) has announced that the newest work in the Pocket Monsters RPG series (Game Freak, Nintendo) is being developed for the Nintendo DS for release by the end of 2010.Since its first entry, "Pocket Monsters Red and Green" from 1996, the "Pocket Monsters" series has received high acclaim from customers around the world for its distinctive universe and gameplay that involves communicating between different versions to trade and battle. Sales for the entire series have climbed to over 130,000,000 copies worldwide.The "Pocket Monsters" series for the Nintendo DS made use of the dual screen, touch screen, and Wi-Fi connection for play. The latest project under development is a completely new work, coming four years after "Pocket Monsters Diamond and Pearl" which boasts worldwide sales of over 17,150,000 copies (over 5,800,000 in Japan). It should make an innovative, fresh start by adding even more new game play elements and new Pokemon.Please anticipate a later article with news about the game's content.As posted earlier, the February 15th issue of CoroCoro is supposed to have a "surprising" announcement related to the 13th Pokemon movie, The Ruler of Illusion: Z. Could it be the revealing of a new 5th generation Pokemon? We'll find out soon!

      #365600
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      I remember the last Episode that Articuno was in, was the Battle Ash had with Noland the Frontier Brain.

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      i found some pictures from the movie24cbpk3.jpg111065x.jpg

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