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  • Hammer, Bait, and Win0



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    • #222654
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      Kohdok
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      I've discovered that often times one of the most functional strategies, at least with the current cards I have, that can work in almost any situation is one I call the “Hammer, Bait, and Duck” It is effective because you throw all of your effectiveness into one Bakugan, pummel your opponent with it, then use a deliberately losing bakugan to play some powerful ability cards.Let's go over the basics:Hammer: The Hammer is a Bakigan that you can buff to incredible heights to utterly beat down your opponent. it is the most powerful bakugan you have and gets better by using the largest possible combo to win at anything.Duck: This is the weak bakugan that sets off your strategies whether it be with Duck and Win-style cards or something more sinister like Flowing Waters.Bait: This Bakugan pretty much exists to lose. It can be fairly menacing or weak, but that's not too important. This bakugan exists to force your opponent to waste resources, clean the field of their cards, or drag out your opponent's own hammer.I find that having a group of these three Bakugan in conjunction makes for the most functional team that can be made with a simple method. Trying to support two of these at once can be hard to do with the cards available to you. As soon as I edit this buggy post I'll detail some examples.

      #317951
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      brawl4life
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      That's really good if you use the “Duck” as Crushing Blow.

      #317932
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      Kohdok
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      Man, this bounding box is messed up. I can't see what I'm typing! Oh well, on to examples/The Haos strategy: This is the most basic and well-known example of Hammer, Bait, and Win. You win your own gate card, lose the second card on purpose, then combine Haos2 with a "Duck and Win"-style card on the final turn for a 3-0 victory. Undoubtedly the cheapest shutout victory in the game.The Aquos strategy: Again, win the first gate card and lose the second one. However, simply play "Flowing Waters" after losing with your duck to dump your other two gate cards into your used pile and win. Undoubtedly the cheapest win in the game.Recycle the Hammer: cards like Runo's Throw, Ventus, and Lock and Load let you re-use your hammer multiple times to pound away at your enemy with vicious combosThe Subterra strategy: Foul up your opponent's strategies by tossing your bait out and then using Julie's Throw to draw out your opponent's better Bakugan and Cards to get them out of your way, whether you win or not.I'm still trying to come up with Ventus, Pyrus, and Darkus strategies that work that way. Still, I think my theory has merit.

      #317924
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      brawl4life
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      That is not how “Flowing Waters” works…it lets you SWITCH them. Not toss 'em in thar for an easy win...

      #317925
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      This works good with the common haos strategy, like you said. Or, if all your bakugan are Ducks, you can use Haos 2 a grand total of five times…As fo pyrus, I have a good strategy that I use often, even though it can work with pretty much any other attribute. (Aside from Haos) This shuts down the opponent, leaving them only able to get a g-boost from their ability cards. Rikimaros surprise and one of the "Shadowfire" style cards, maybe a Stand Your Ground for re-use, and as for silver, on of the gates that brings back a red card. Gold could be something like Crushing Blow.

      #317752
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      That is not how "Flowing Waters" works...it lets you SWITCH them. Not toss 'em in thar for an easy win...

      Well, the language of the card says "Swap any number of Bakugan and Gate Cards from your unused pile to your used pile, which seems to indicate a one-way street. Had it been "Swap any number of Bakugan and Gate Cards in your unused pile with an equal number of them from your used pile", there would be no doubt. Has there been an errata or ruling on this, or something?

      #317729
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      Yes, there has…DON'T LAUGH! IT WAS MY FIRST POST HERE! LOLhttp://www.forum.bakuganbuzz.com/index.php?topic=4088.msg70280#msg70280

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      Yes, there has...DON'T LAUGH! IT WAS MY FIRST POST HERE! LOLhttp://www.forum.bakuganbuzz.com/index.php?topic=4088.msg70280#msg70280

      Sorry, but I'm not convinced. Any official links? And what indicates that it would work the way you say it? If it really does work the way you say it, then it's poorly worded and Spinmaster should probably fire the editor who let that slip by.

      #317661
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      Yes, there has...DON'T LAUGH! IT WAS MY FIRST POST HERE! LOLhttp://www.forum.bakuganbuzz.com/index.php?topic=4088.msg70280#msg70280

      Sorry, but I'm not convinced. Any official links? If it really does work the way you say it, then it's poorly worded and Spinmaster should probably fire the editor who let that slip by.

      That is official... The owner of this Forum posted it there, and ask anyone, "Flowing Waters" is not used that way, and is a fail Imho.

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      Kohdok
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      Yes, there has...DON'T LAUGH! IT WAS MY FIRST POST HERE! LOLhttp://www.forum.bakuganbuzz.com/index.php?topic=4088.msg70280#msg70280

      Sorry, but I'm not convinced. Any official links? If it really does work the way you say it, then it's poorly worded and Spinmaster should probably fire the editor who let that slip by.

      That is official... The owner of this Forum posted it there, and ask anyone, "Flowing Waters" is not used that way, and is a fail Imho.

      Well, I didn't see it mentioned in the FAQ's, but it's not really worth pursuing. Still, It can be used to recycle your hammer, dumping your bait and Lightning Storm to use your Hammer again, now buffed by 50 points!

      #317581
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      Mhm, I guess…Also, for darkus:Hammer= 740g steel moskeeto darkusOther= 250g preyas =pOther= 720 Alpha PercyMasquerade's throwDarkusDire ReaperDark TunnelCrushing blowHaunted NightKind of Jumbled Up, and off topic, but makes for a good DARKUS team (barely)

      #317576
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      Obito
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      hmm. i kinda use this this too.i have a weak haos for my tricky gate and a okayish haos with a character card and a lotta abilities

      #317664

      Man, this bounding box is messed up. I can't see what I'm typing! Oh well, on to examples/The Haos strategy: This is the most basic and well-known example of Hammer, Bait, and Win. You win your own gate card, lose the second card on purpose, then combine Haos2 with a "Duck and Win"-style card on the final turn for a 3-0 victory. Undoubtedly the cheapest shutout victory in the game.

      I already thought of that strat, so it is actually made by ME, but you are new here, I do not expect you to know.

      #339867
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      Man, this bounding box is messed up. I can't see what I'm typing! Oh well, on to examples/The Haos strategy: This is the most basic and well-known example of Hammer, Bait, and Win. You win your own gate card, lose the second card on purpose, then combine Haos2 with a "Duck and Win"-style card on the final turn for a 3-0 victory. Undoubtedly the cheapest shutout victory in the game.

      I already thought of that strat, so it is actually made by ME, but you are new here, I do not expect you to know.

      That strategy's been around since the instant the Haos2 card came out, my friend, I've used it reliably for a long time. I'm just using it as an example.

      #340514

      Oh. Well, I never learned it from anyone and through of it myself, plus I never saw anyone else use it, so, yeah.

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