"Official" reply to some rules questions

[Admin]

Got some answers to some question i had asked, im getting som emore clarification on some of these and also another Q about clears.

1. When exactly is the "start of a battle"? Is it before the gate card is flipped over or after?

- The "start of a battle" is when two opposing Bakugan stand on a Gate Card. The Card is flipped over THEN brawlers can use their Ability cards.


2. On the TRU exclusive DVD it states that pearls and translucents both get 2 choices for a gate attribute bonus but only the pearl one was stated as being able to choose the one that helps them the most which implies "after" the card was flipped.

- Correct. The final G-Power/Attribute is determined when the card has been flipped (or in other words, the battle has started.)

Translucents not only get their standard G-Power gain, but also get the G-power on the Glowing attribute. (This has to be a mistake, i am verifying it with him and will update. It should be they get to choose between the two )

Pearls can take on the attribute of their opponent if the brawler chooses to do so in order to gain the highest standard G-Power bonus on the Gate Card.


3. Also Dual attributes or "swaps", when do you choose which attribute you want to use? and if an opponent plays a card that affects a certain attribute, do they get to choose which attribute they want the swap to be so their card can "work"?

- Dual/Swap Bakugan attributes are determined at the start of a battle (in other words, when the Gate card is flipped over.)

I'm assuming you are talking about when an opponent plays an Ability card. They should first flip the Gate Card over, choose their attribute, then play an Ability. That is where some strategy comes into play. Picking a Dual/Swap Bakugan with intentions of swapping attributes then using an Ability card to boost G-Power can come in quite handy in an epic battle.


4. On some of the newer traps, they have multiple attribute symbols, we know you pick one to use but why are some of them repeated ( pythantus ). If you pick an attribute that is shown twice, does that offer anything special?

- Be careful not to confuse the Trap's actual attribute from the attributes that is provides the brawler to choose from. As for Traps that actually do show the same attribute again, I will seek more information on this in order to provide an official response.

Official response below

Traps with Duplicate Attributes - These do nothing special. They work just the same as any Trap. Some Traps have several places to print attributes. From a manufacturing stand point, they wanted to fill every spot that an attribute can be painted on. So, they may have duplicated an attribute. Use these Traps just as you would a normal Trap (i.e. changing the attribute of a Bakugan).

[Agent Spectre]

I do not know why it was changed so we couldn't reply to those other topics, but whatever...

2. On the TRU exclusive DVD it states that pearls and translucents both get 2 choices for a gate attribute bonus but only the pearl one was stated as being able to choose the one that helps them the most which implies "after" the card was flipped.

- Correct. The final G-Power/Attribute is determined when the card has been flipped (or in other words, the battle has started.)

Translucents not only get their standard G-Power gain, but also get the G-power on the Glowing attribute. (This has to be a mistake, i am verifying it with him and will update. It should be they get to choose between the two )

Pearls can take on the attribute of their opponent if the brawler chooses to do so in order to gain the highest standard G-Power bonus on the Gate Card.

I thought Translucents picked between their Att or the OPPONENTS att, not the Highlight ( makign them ore in line with Clears). The highlighted bonus was for Pearls. Why is the opposite now?

I'm assuming you are talking about when an opponent plays an Ability card. They should first flip the Gate Card over, choose their attribute, then play an Ability. That is where some strategy comes into play. Picking a Dual/Swap Bakugan with intentions of swapping attributes then using an Ability card to boost G-Power can come in quite handy in an epic battle.

What the heck? They first said pick the att at the start of battle, now they're saying we can change it? when?

Traps with Duplicate Attributes - These do nothing special. They work just the same as any Trap. Some Traps have several places to print attributes. From a manufacturing stand point, they wanted to fill every spot that an attribute can be painted on. So, they may have duplicated an attribute. Use these Traps just as you would a normal Trap (i.e. changing the attribute of a Bakugan).

I could care less about how the atts are printed double on Pythantus. What we need to know is what happens when a trap has 2 or 3 DIFFERENT attributes as opposed to 1. You say we "pick"... but when was that ever officially stated, and if that's the case, why should we even buy the traps with only one att?

[Admin]

your right, i think he confused the 2 as well, i will get it clarified.

the dual they never said you can change it other than at the start of a battle ( actually your picking not changing ) its referring to choosing one at the start of a battle with the intention of using an ability card later that affects the attribute you chose ( if im understanding it right )

You pick just 1 attribute to switch to from the trap, its "officially" stated on the "official" TRU DVD  LOL

[Admin]

more replies...I apologize. I must have had a brain-fart when I was writing this up. My bad!

Translucent & Pearl - I have updated my answer to reflect the appropriate response. Yes, Translucents are similar to Clears as they can take on their opponent's attribute, but have a one-up as they have the choice of their own attribute to gain G-Power bonuses from instead. (  i had this wrong, i re watched the DVD and it confirms that translucent actually choose an attribute and not just a g-power gate bonus like the pearl )

Dual Attributes - Brawlers simply choose which attribute they want the Bakugan to be associated with at the beginning of the battle. They may have different motives for choosing a certain attribute. Such as, G-Power bonus on the Gate Card or picking an attribute to use strategically with an Ability card.

Dual vs. Clear - This is a great question! Clears take on the attribute of a Bakugan, not it's special function or special attack ability. So, a Clear Bakugan will always take on the attribute of it's opponent. So, take for example these cases:

    * Clear vs Dual - The Clear will take on the attribute that is decided by the Dual.
    * Clear vs Translucent - Again, the Clear will take on the attribute that is decided by the Translucent.

You can think of a Clear as a mirror Bakugan. No matter what attribute your opponent changes to, your Clear Bakugan will always reflect it.

Special Treatments - I will investigate and get a concise list of confirmed 'Special Treatment' Bakugan for you.

Rainbow Card - This is another great question. It seems that the designers of this card should have paid attention to the fact that color and attributes can be perceived as synonymous, as you pointed out. The Season 1 Rainbow Gate card does mention that each Bakugan gets +100 G-Power for each different 'color' being used. However, Season 2 Rainbow Gate card states that each Bakugan gets +50 G-Power for each different 'attribute' being used. So, it seems that the earlier designers didn't take into account that players would get confused with using 'color' for attribute. Final decision... color means attribute. Each Bakugan gets a bonus in G-Power for each different attribute that the owner is using in game.


Teamwork Card - In this case, it seems that the Gate card affects both players as it doesn't specifically state that it affects a single one. As for Type, since this is a Season 1 card (referring back to the lack of detail with the 'color' reference), I believe the designers meant that 'type' is the breed of Bakugan, such as Preyas, Drago, Skyress, Terrorclaw.

As for using Duals with any bonus modifiers dependent on attributes, we are looking into the specific rule and will get back to you ASAP.

[Admin]

More replies to some great questions from A.S. and myself.

More updates on rules:

Q: Dual Attribute treatment – Are Dual Attribute Bakugan treated as two attributes or a single attribute when processing a G-Power bonus? Take for example the Gate card, Rainbow. This card states that for each different attribute of Bakugan in play the Bakugan gets a +50 G-Power bonus. Say you have a Dual Attribute in play, does it receive a double bonus or one? Say you had a Dual in your unused pile (therefore making it an ‘uncalled’ attribute), does this allow for a double bonus or a single bonus?

A: A Bakugan can only be one attribute at a time, which brings up the interesting situation above. If you have a Dual attribute Bakugan in a battle, and it is (for example) currently an Aquos, then it only counts as a single attribute Bakugan giving a single G-Power bonus. If you have a Dual Bakugan in your used or unused pile, you can pick either of the attributes for a single G-Power bonus, but you cannot pick both for a double bonus.

This may get a little wonky in some situations. You may need to determine the attribute of a Dual, or other attribute changing Bakugan, at the beginning of the battle for certain cards that may be played that reference to the attributes of Bakugan not currently in battle.

Lastly, a Clear Bakugan in a used or unused pile would not count as having ANY attribute until it is given one in a battle.


Q: Clear treatment – A Clear Bakugan takes on the attribute of its opponent. However, is this attribute change limited to the initial start of a battle? Or does the Clear Bakugan have the ability to change its attribute as the battle progresses? For example, if a Preyas and a Clear start a battle, the Clear would take on the attribute of the Preyas. Next, the ‘Preyas Switch’ ability card is played and allows the Preyas to choose a new attribute. Does the Clear have the choice to change its attribute again as well?

A: Clear Bakugan take the attribute of their opponent at the start of the battle. They do not constantly change as their opponent changes.


Q: Special Treatment Bakugan list – Are you able to provide a finalized list of what the ‘Special Treatment’ Bakugan consist of? Many cards refer to bonuses being received for the amount of Special Treatment in play. So far, I know that Special Treatment refer to Clear, Pearl, Translucent, and Dual. Are Special Attacks also considered Special Treatment?

A: A Special Treatment Bakugan is any Bakugan that doesn't look like a "normal" Bakugan OR it is any Bakugan that has a "special feature". So, that would include Bakugan like; Pearl, Translucent, Duals, Heavy Metals, Clears and anything sold in the "Special Attack" packages.

A confirmed list will be made soon. Please stay tuned.

[Admin]

Couple More Rules Clarifications

Q: Do Ability cards that offer bonus based on Gate card G-Power bonuses stack?

A: No, they do not. In your example, if a Gate card had 200 G-Power and the Ability card doubled that you would get 400 G-Power. If your opponent threw down the same card, he would only get 400 G-Power as well since the Ability card boosts Gate card G-Power, not Gate + Ability combined.

Q: If a card refers to the 'lowest printed G-Power' does altering the G-Power of a Bakugan modify this rule?

A: No, if a card directs you to use the 'lowest printed G-Power' always refer to the printed G-Power, regardless of its modification from Ability cards.

[highbrid]

if you roll on your card and your apponent uses attractor can you play maruchos throw and also when in a battle are you alloud to play all 3 ability cards at once? and also when you play bakugan swap when you get ready to play your second bakugan can you use clean slate cuzz techically that is rolling

[Darkus Brawler]

Couple More Rules Clarifications

Q: Do Ability cards that offer bonus based on Gate card G-Power bonuses stack?

A: No, they do not. In your example, if a Gate card had 200 G-Power and the Ability card doubled that you would get 400 G-Power. If your opponent threw down the same card, he would only get 400 G-Power as well since the Ability card boosts Gate card G-Power, not Gate + Ability combined.

Q: If a card refers to the 'lowest printed G-Power' does altering the G-Power of a Bakugan modify this rule?

A: No, if a card directs you to use the 'lowest printed G-Power' always refer to the printed G-Power, regardless of its modification from Ability cards.

So you're saying if the gate is G-Power swap that although the PRINTED G-Powers are swapped when playing ability cards you'd still count as your original printed G? That doesn't seem right.

[BakuganRy]

Couple More Rules Clarifications

Q: Do Ability cards that offer bonus based on Gate card G-Power bonuses stack?

A: No, they do not. In your example, if a Gate card had 200 G-Power and the Ability card doubled that you would get 400 G-Power. If your opponent threw down the same card, he would only get 400 G-Power as well since the Ability card boosts Gate card G-Power, not Gate + Ability combined.

Q: If a card refers to the 'lowest printed G-Power' does altering the G-Power of a Bakugan modify this rule?

A: No, if a card directs you to use the 'lowest printed G-Power' always refer to the printed G-Power, regardless of its modification from Ability cards.

So you're saying if the gate is G-Power swap that although the PRINTED G-Powers are swapped when playing ability cards you'd still count as your original printed G? That doesn't seem right.

The G-Power maybe swapped or modified but the "PRINTED" G- power does not change on the bakugan (unless a bakugan has a G-power change ability and was changed by another source like a card, gate or another effect that alters the printed G-power). 


Let us say you have the lowest printed G-Power. So if  a card is played that "swaps the printed G-powers of each bakugan" then it does not mean that the actual printed G-power was swapped. So if you play a card that references the lowest PRINTED G-power then your bakugan still satisfies the requirement for the card.   

[narutopwns]

Can we clarify the trap/ability card thing. If you use a trap then a card that states "play at the start of a battle", would that be allowed or not since the beginning move was a trap activation?

[Zeox]

 ^ your still going on about this?

Dident ernie say that you can do that

[narutopwns]

Just clarifying, thats all, if this was directed towards you, I would be glad to hear your comment, but its for ErnieB, so what was the point of that?

[Admin]

My understanding is that the card can be played. I will ask my rep again to further clarify ( but im thinking we already hashed this out b4 )

[BakuganSensei]

Couple More Rules Clarifications

Q: Do Ability cards that offer bonus based on Gate card G-Power bonuses stack?

A: No, they do not. In your example, if a Gate card had 200 G-Power and the Ability card doubled that you would get 400 G-Power. If your opponent threw down the same card, he would only get 400 G-Power as well since the Ability card boosts Gate card G-Power, not Gate + Ability combined.

I need some help with this one. Are you saying if I had a Pyrus Bakugan and was on a 200 G-power Gate Card Boost and I played an ability card that had a 30 boost for Pyrus Attribute as well as an order below the card instructing if Bakugan was Pyrus to double the Gate Card bonus. My Pyrus should get base 710g+400g Gate(Since Gate doubled from 200g)+30g Attribute= 1140g right ?

It seems like there is no language on the card to say that you do not get the card attribute bonus(i.e.out of 2 on card) plus whatever the card says below ? like doubling gate card power if you are a certain attribute. This makes no sense to me  

Ability card attribute bonus PLUS whatever card says below should apply I would think. Otherwise, why have any attribute bonus's up on top that match attribute below ? And I heard the cards instructions or rules trump the other written rules ?

Other Ability cards give attribute bonus's that stack(I think) with anything else said below on the card right, like Bakugan character bonus ?

Am I wrong on this ?

P.S. Sorry if this is wrong thread, mods feel free to move it.

[BakuganRy]

Couple More Rules Clarifications

Q: Do Ability cards that offer bonus based on Gate card G-Power bonuses stack?

A: No, they do not. In your example, if a Gate card had 200 G-Power and the Ability card doubled that you would get 400 G-Power. If your opponent threw down the same card, he would only get 400 G-Power as well since the Ability card boosts Gate card G-Power, not Gate + Ability combined.

I need some help with this one. Are you saying if I had a Pyrus Bakugan and was on a 200 G-power Gate Card Boost and I played an ability card that had a 30 boost for Pyrus Attribute as well as an order below the card instructing if Bakugan was Pyrus to double the Gate Card bonus. My Pyrus should get base 710g+400g Gate(Since Gate doubled from 200g)+30g Attribute= 1140g right ?

It seems like there is no language on the card to say that you do not get the card attribute bonus(i.e.out of 2 on card) plus whatever the card says below ? like doubling gate card power if you are a certain attribute. This makes no sense to me  

Ability card attribute bonus PLUS whatever card says below should apply I would think. Otherwise, why have any attribute bonus's up on top that match attribute below ? And I heard the cards instructions or rules trump the other written rules ?

Other Ability cards give attribute bonus's that stack(I think) with anything else said below on the card right, like Bakugan character bonus ?

Am I wrong on this ?

P.S. Sorry if this is wrong thread, mods feel free to move it.

Your computation is correct BUT when cards say "double the gate card bonus"  it means to double the value indicated on the card and NOT the value that has been changed or modified by other cards. This was to clear up some confusion like if you played an ability card that double the gatecard bonus and your opponent plays the same card. If you have gatecard that gives pyrus 200 and you have an ability card that give gives pyrus 50 and it says you to double the pyrus value then you double the value from the gatecard. 300 (x2) = 600 + 50 = 650. IF YOU opponents plays the same card it will not Double the value from 600 (x2) to 1200. Your opponent will get the same 650 total if he plays a similar card.