Author Topic: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?  (Read 2682 times)

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So I have a road block? Say I have a subterra bakugan, and than use a subterra trap, and change me to ventus. Would I be able to use ventus, which states "Play at the start of the battle where you have a ventus bakugan"? I get really confused with this maneuver, and whether or not it would be legal at the bakucon. Anyways, HELP!

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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2010, 02:54:08 PM »
The question was on the commun, but there was no offical answer. The answer that was said was no. Since playing your trap would end the Start of the Battle. Still have no clue though. PM LD.
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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2010, 02:55:27 PM »
Yah, sure thing ;)

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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2010, 02:57:23 PM »
Also, the start of battle is when two Bakugan stand on an unflipped Gate. Traps are played when the gate is flipped. When the gate is flipped, the "During a battle" phase begins.
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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2010, 03:02:42 PM »
Isn't the start of the battle when I card is fliped over though.
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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2010, 03:03:45 PM »
Also, the start of battle is when two Bakugan stand on an unflipped Gate. Traps are played when the gate is flipped. When the gate is flipped, the "During a battle" phase begins.
Thats new to me, because I received complaints when I used ventus, before a gate like "stand off" or "quick charge" was activated, oh well, I already PM'ed LD, and I have back up if this isn't legal.

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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2010, 03:24:54 PM »
I was told by a "Battle Master" that you couldn't do this, but IMO the "Battle Masters" don't know squat, considering how many card mistakes they made. And I didn't think Lord Darkus even played the game, how would he know a rule clarification?

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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2010, 03:28:02 PM »
Also, the start of battle is when two Bakugan stand on an unflipped Gate. Traps are played when the gate is flipped. When the gate is flipped, the "During a battle" phase begins.
Thats new to me, because I received complaints when I used ventus, before a gate like "stand off" or "quick charge" was activated, oh well, I already PM'ed LD, and I have back up if this isn't legal.

Spin Master posted a clarification on the game FAQ for this but it needs to be clarified further.

01: When is the start of a battle? Is it before the Gate Card is flipped over, or after?
The "start of a battle" is when two opposing Bakugan stand on a Gate Card. The Card is flipped over THEN brawlers can use their Ability cards.

It does answer the questions when the start of the battle BUT it does indicate that only after the card is flipped over is WHEN you can play ability cards. This is confusing because if you go back to the rulebook it will say somewhere :

(Each Ability card indicates when it can be played - before, during and after a battle)

So if you follow the rules then playing it before the gate card is flipped is also legal, similar to playing ability cards like "Play before you roll", "play after you roll" or "play at the start or beginning of the game". If the they wrote the Ventus card this way then it would be more clearer "Play at the start of the battle, after the gate card is revealed and where you have Ventus Bakugan" then this clearly states it can only be played after the gate card is flipped.

This is a clear example where a ruling has to be cleared up and officially posted by Spin master.

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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2010, 03:31:21 PM »
I was told by a "Battle Master" that you couldn't do this, but IMO the "Battle Masters" don't know squat, considering how many card mistakes they made. And I didn't think Lord Darkus even played the game, how would he know a rule clarification?
Well he should be right, the start of the battle is when the card is fliped.
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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2010, 03:41:08 PM »
Im kinda confused, but is what I am talking about legal?

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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2010, 03:43:14 PM »
I think the card text appears on a lot of cards. Maybe the members on this forum can do petition for Spin Master to post an official ruling on the FAQ.


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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2010, 03:48:52 PM »
Im kinda confused, but is what I am talking about legal?
Probubly not, NP. You still have a week to think of a deck though. Just in case just bring everything to NY.
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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2010, 03:51:05 PM »
Well I will have to use a lot of persuasion skills and bring back up ;)

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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2010, 04:41:23 PM »

01: When is the start of a battle? Is it before the Gate Card is flipped over, or after?
The "start of a battle" is when two opposing Bakugan stand on a Gate Card. The Card is flipped over THEN brawlers can use their Ability cards.



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Re: Trap, than "play at the start of the battle" maneuver. Is it legal?
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2010, 04:44:55 PM »
.....UGH, This game!!!
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